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Important Announcement, READ THIS NOW!

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Feraess
post Oct 4 2007, 11:00 AM
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Group: Administrators
From: Sheffield, UK



Dear members

On Sunday 14th October Parkour.net will be closed to allow the staff to make some significant changes to the way this forum works in order to improve the way the community works.

From Monday 15th October, users will have to provide basic information about who they are in order to register and contribute to the discussions on the website. This is to prevent people signing up anonymously and causing trouble, and also means that more personalised and accurate advice can be given. There will also be more information available about staff members, again to facilitate understanding.
The structure of the forums will also change slightly to maintain a better focus on improving people's understanding of parkour and making useful information easier to find. The videos section will be reorganised with specific rules for posting to allow only those videos that help users to gain a better understanding, either videos for users to receive advice on techniques shown, or videos that provide a good example to practitioners and inspire.
Clearer guidelines for acceptable usage will also be made available to help preserve the spirit of constructive discussion present in these forums. The staff will not tolerate any negative, disruptive or abusive users and will remove them from these boards where necessary.

To allow for a fresh start for everyone, part of the process will involve the removal of all existing posts and user accounts. You will therefore have to re-register upon your return and agree to abide by the new rules. Any information from any Private Messages that you wish to retain should therefore be copied elsewhere before this date.

Since there is a lot of valuable information present in these forums already we would ask all users to use the next 10 days to search through the forums and notify the staff of any informative posts that you feel should be kept. Obviously we will be retaining the information stored in the 'Important Topics' areas already, but if you search and find others please PM me with the link to the post in question and if possible, the reason you think it is useful.
Any posts you find useful will undoubtedly be of use to others.

Thank you all for your feedback in helping to make parkour.net a better place.

Cheers

Dave (on behalf of the Parkour.net staff)
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post Oct 4 2007, 11:00 AM
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Scott
post Oct 4 2007, 02:26 PM
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Just wondering mate, who are these 'Staff'?

All i know of was Jerome being an Admin, and some mods. Since when did parkour.net have 'Staff'!?

Secondly, i think its unnessesary to have to re-boot all the accounts. For most of the important (old) posts IT IS ESSENTIAL that the original poster can be PM'd, etc. I like being able to PM people from older threads, especially if an idea has cropped up but never really got anywhere in that thread.

and im feeling the video section might end up as a 'good traceurs' section and a 'bad traceurs' section...

Why not just keep things as they are...

Its worked for the last 2/3 years.


Im feeling a lot of people arent going to return...
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Sesshoumaru-sama
post Oct 4 2007, 04:36 PM
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QUOTE (Scott @ Oct 4 2007, 10:26 AM) *
Just wondering mate, who are these 'Staff'?

All i know of was Jerome being an Admin, and some mods. Since when did parkour.net have 'Staff'!?

Secondly, i think its unnessesary to have to re-boot all the accounts. For most of the important (old) posts IT IS ESSENTIAL that the original poster can be PM'd, etc. I like being able to PM people from older threads, especially if an idea has cropped up but never really got anywhere in that thread.

and im feeling the video section might end up as a 'good traceurs' section and a 'bad traceurs' section...

Why not just keep things as they are...

Its worked for the last 2/3 years.


Im feeling a lot of people arent going to return...



I agree with Scott. But then there is the problem of finding those old archives of information that got lost before this site got changed about a year ago. Why the erratic changes? Is this site ever going to be as informative as it has been before? What is going to happen to the other members who also want that infomation as well, will they stay or will they go? Hn, I'll stay as long as this site is informative and is not again mislayed.
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Feraess
post Oct 4 2007, 08:09 PM
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Scott, there has always been the '.net team'. More recently, when Jerome had less time to spend on this site and the workload increased, the .net team have had to take over more of the operations of the site (there are 6 admins at the moment). We'll try to provide a full list of staff members with the new site once we have confirmed a few new additions.

The reason it is essential to remove all of the posts is because it is currently very difficult to find useful information as it is buried by the useless stufff. The reason we are removing user accounts is mainly to force users to read and agree to the new rules, but it also allows us to implement other requirements to improve the quality of discussion here.

If you want to discuss a topic that hasn't been covered already, share it with everyone so you can get a wider range of responses. You will still be able to PM the users who have contributed useful information as long as they continue to use the site, as the posts we keep will have details of their respective authors.

The reality is that a person isn't going to positively contribute to discussions unless they have a desire to do so. If they have the desire to help and learn, they'll be around the same as before. If they don't, we haven't lost anything by them not coming back. There are a lot of users who are currently registered who bring nothing to this website other than a higher post rate.

For the videos section, all we are doing is stopping users being misled on this website by bad representations of parkour while enabling those who want to use videos to learn to continue to do so. Youtube is still there for anyone who wants to show off their latest videos, but we are not going to encourage people to do that as it isn't in the spirit of parkour.

Sesshoumaru-sama, the information from the old articles will be present in the new layout along with the useful information saved from the current forums and other pieces written in the meantime. I'm sorry this information has been unavailable for a while, but I hope that when everthing returns, updated and in a clearer format, you won't hold it against us.
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PKhumanimal
post Oct 5 2007, 03:35 AM
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Sorry to ask this Feraess but you didn't make it that clear: are you going to delete all the old threads except a couple that will be put in important topics?
If so will the other old threads be kept in a section of the website which will be viewable (but not accessible to post in)?
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Manu
post Oct 5 2007, 08:48 AM
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We understand your feelings about this, but we discussed it and thought it was for the better to delete all of the current posts as to start anew and have a forum with a friendly attitude and constructive posts only.

We encourage everyone to start it right off together with us to make this place better than it ever was before. smile.gif
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Binary
post Oct 5 2007, 11:16 AM
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I feel it a very negative thing to clear ALL, many topics should be carried over, I feel it will take more than 2 days to keep the important topics/posts, there is some amazing stuff in here and it is a real shame to let it go again.

Dave if there's anything I can do to help please let me, drop me a PM, I'm happy to help mod too.

Brad
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RizLA.
post Oct 5 2007, 05:04 PM
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art-du-deplacement forum was the best and will be the best all new changes sux smile.gif
gl with new start but there will be always spam,flamers,idiots ... tongue.gif
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Javi
post Oct 6 2007, 12:48 PM
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Binary, what you can do is to find important topics you consider they should be saved. So we'll consider them and put in the new forum. But don't worry. We'll save the old forum in a read-only archive wink.gif
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spk_ben
post Oct 6 2007, 11:17 PM
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I was surprised to hear this news but I'm with Dave, I think we could do with a spring cleaning. There's some right crap throughout the forum (as there is on every pk forum). Best to keep it clean and useful and be strict on it. No need to keep more than the very very important bits.

No point there being video sharing zones, people have blogs for that. I disagree on there being a need for a technique video section, as I can't imagine asking for help with technique that way, but Dave seems to think it's necessary.

I'm getting sick of pk forums at the moment so I basically only go on NP to announce what time I'll be out this Saturday or whatever. I get pissed off easily at people on forums because of their opposing views or lack of knowledge about parkour, and I don't get anywhere by replying. Nobody takes any notice of genuine advice (how can they when they have a dozen opposing views?) and most people aren't even interested in parkour, they just want to know how to backflip or want to know where they can buy the best shoes.

I'm toning down my pointless web usage this year and concentrating on my studies and my training.

Good luck with the .net revolution, Dave. See you Monday.
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Sesshoumaru-sama
post Oct 7 2007, 07:39 PM
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I don't have nor will I hold anything against this site. As long as promises are kept and prompt. This site, I hope will be all right...
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Binary
post Oct 8 2007, 09:33 AM
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QUOTE (Javi @ Oct 6 2007, 01:48 PM) *
Binary, what you can do is to find important topics you consider they should be saved. So we'll consider them and put in the new forum. But don't worry. We'll save the old forum in a read-only archive wink.gif


I can read mate, I know you can it says to do that at the top, if it's archived then thats cool, as long as it's still there.
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HotWood
post Oct 9 2007, 01:43 PM
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So like, with this update.. is .NET still only going to be a forum? or will the actual website return?
Also, will the articles that were on the website originally, return? cause I really wanted to read some of them, however I couldn't because they were deleted :/

Cheers,
Dave.
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Feraess
post Oct 9 2007, 06:02 PM
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From: Sheffield, UK



We are looking at adding other features to the site, but the articles and info will be back regardless.
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Jerome
post Oct 9 2007, 08:54 PM
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QUOTE (HotWood @ Oct 9 2007, 03:43 PM) *
So like, with this update.. is .NET still only going to be a forum? or will the actual website return?
Also, will the articles that were on the website originally, return? cause I really wanted to read some of them, however I couldn't because they were deleted :/

Hello Dave,

can you tell me which part miss you ? Can you also tell me what would you like to have as features ?
The site is going to come back as a forum, yes, but better organised and we can add some nice features in it easily. We just don't want to have too much bad content not pk related or wrong informations. We believe that a forum well organised is the best for our need, as we want to publish good and correct informations and provide support to Traceurs who need.
Articles will be back, news too.

Regards,

J.
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Binary
post Oct 9 2007, 09:10 PM
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QUOTE (Jerome @ Oct 9 2007, 09:54 PM) *
Hello Dave,

can you tell me which part miss you ? Can you also tell me what would you like to have as features ?
The site is going to come back as a forum, yes, but better organised and we can add some nice features in it easily. We just don't want to have too much bad content not pk related or wrong informations. We believe that a forum well organised is the best for our need, as we want to publish good and correct informations and provide support to Traceurs who need.
Articles will be back, news too.

Regards,

J.


The news is good in my opinion. letting people know what is going on with real PARKOUR practioners and decent coaching etc.

Would be great to get some insight from Belle and regular "interviews" with VARIED practioners.

The Parkour wiki was a great resource too. Shame that went.

As I've said before I'd love to help mod.

Brad
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Jerome
post Oct 9 2007, 09:29 PM
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QUOTE (Binary @ Oct 9 2007, 11:10 PM) *
The news is good in my opinion. letting people know what is going on with real PARKOUR practioners and decent coaching etc.

Would be great to get some insight from Belle and regular "interviews" with VARIED practioners.

The Parkour wiki was a great resource too. Shame that went.

As I've said before I'd love to help mod.

Brad



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Would be great to get some insight from Belle and regular "interviews" with VARIED practioners.
I like this idea ! If few members want to participate to this, i'll give them my support to do it.


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The Parkour wiki was a great resource too. Shame that went.
I think we can implement a good wiki (fully integrated) in the site which would, for example, be used to write collaborative articles. We'll think about that, but it's not the first priority at the moment.


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As I've said before I'd love to help mod.
We'll talk about this soon Brad ;-) We need more support and moderators, help is welcome, thank you for proposing yours.


Thank you for your constructive post Brad.
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Trickstar
post Oct 9 2007, 10:35 PM
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i remember we had a wiki for articles already, but except some few noone really used it, right? it's a shame, but it's also quite hard to distinguish which advice is good and which isn't for special problems.
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HotWood
post Oct 10 2007, 09:42 PM
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Well, I don't know for sure, but I've browsed a few forums (.net and pkaus tongue.gif) and both have had links back to articles on this site, which however, had been deleted sad.gif

I think they were just articles like interviews, peoples thoughts/beliefs, about training. stuff like that. I could be wrong - but that's what I thought was on the site.

They could be on the forums right now, I'm really not sure sorry.
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Feraess
post Oct 10 2007, 09:53 PM
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Group: Administrators
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HotWood, if you find places where people have linked to specific parts of .net please send me the links in a PM. It doesn't mater whether they are broken or not because I can find the piece it was trying to reach, but those liks would be good indicators of what people find useful so it would help us greatly in making this place better after we make the changes.
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